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Posted 2019-June-19, 10:03

View PostVampyr, on 2019-June-16, 19:21, said:

Maybe you are using the same number of boards as we use here? I can’t figure it out LOL. You can, of course accommodate numbers or teams (or pairs) that aren’t multiples of 4 if you just pass the boards along rather than have a sharing arrangement.

But I am still curious about what a “Dupli-Swiss” is!

“Dupli-Swiss” is a common USA term for a Swiss where all matches each round use the same boards.

For my 24 table example, another method which I prefer is to treat my 12 tables A1 through A12 as a 12-table Mitchell pair game section starting with two boards on each table (1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8,1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8,1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8) with boards passed to the next lower table until all eight boards are completed. Similar for the “B” tables.
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Posted 2019-June-20, 15:53

I suspect that the term arose because even long after duplicated boards were common for pairs games, teams still hand dealt at the start of each match. I think this is partly due to ACBLScore having problems with pre-duped boards in team events.
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Posted 2019-June-20, 18:50

View PostBudH, on 2019-June-19, 10:03, said:

“Dupli-Swiss” is a common USA term for a Swiss where all matches each round use the same boards.


Oh, OK. This is normal everywhere else in the world, so doesn’t have a special name. And of course it goes without saying that if by Swiss you mean Swiss Pairs, it goes without saying that everyone plays the same boards.

Anyway, an advantage of using duplicated boards is that you can score by IMPs (generally converted to Victory Points) rather than win/loss. This can result in more accurate pairings.
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Posted 2019-June-25, 08:51

View Postblackshoe, on 2019-June-20, 15:53, said:

I suspect that the term arose because even long after duplicated boards were common for pairs games, teams still hand dealt at the start of each match. I think this is partly due to ACBLScore having problems with pre-duped boards in team events.

What? ACBLscore doesn't care whether the boards are hand-dealt or preduplicated. ACBLscore does not (currently) work well with Bridgemates for Swiss teams, but this has nothing to do with how the boards are dealt.
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Posted 2019-June-25, 10:46

View PostCoelacanth, on 2019-June-25, 08:51, said:

What? ACBLscore doesn't care whether the boards are hand-dealt or preduplicated. ACBLscore does not (currently) work well with Bridgemates for Swiss teams, but this has nothing to do with how the boards are dealt.

But possibly with whether the program in question includes facilities for importing files describing the boards?

Commonly used today are files in formats like (but not limited to) .BRI, .DLM and .DUP
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Posted 2019-June-25, 17:27

View PostCoelacanth, on 2019-June-25, 08:51, said:

What? ACBLscore doesn't care whether the boards are hand-dealt or preduplicated. ACBLscore does not (currently) work well with Bridgemates for Swiss teams, but this has nothing to do with how the boards are dealt.

Yeah, I mistyped. Call the director. B-)
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Posted 2019-June-25, 20:55

View PostCoelacanth, on 2019-June-25, 08:51, said:

What? ACBLscore doesn't care whether the boards are hand-dealt or preduplicated. ACBLscore does not (currently) work well with Bridgemates for Swiss teams, but this has nothing to do with how the boards are dealt.

ACBLscore and Bridgmates do not “get along” well when running team events!

A week from today, I’ll be using for the first time running a club DupliSwiss Ping Hu’s BridgeTD program which serves as a “bridge” (pun intended) between ACBLscire and the Bridgemate software. Our local sectional’s Sunday DupliSwiss in early August will use the same software.
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Posted 2019-June-26, 12:36

View Postpran, on 2019-June-25, 10:46, said:

But possibly with whether the program in question includes facilities for importing files describing the boards?

Commonly used today are files in formats like (but not limited to) .BRI, .DLM and .DUP

I don't think ACBLScore ever needs to deal with hands. All it knows about are players, movements (which pairs play which board numbers), and scores.

The programs that deal with hand records are separate from ACBLScore.

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Posted 2019-June-26, 14:33

View Postbarmar, on 2019-June-26, 12:36, said:

I don't think ACBLScore ever needs to deal with hands. All it knows about are players, movements (which pairs play which board numbers), and scores.

The programs that deal with hand records are separate from ACBLScore.

Do they not provide board diagrams together with the results?
(This is a matter of course here)
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Posted 2019-June-28, 08:26

View Postpran, on 2019-June-26, 14:33, said:

Do they not provide board diagrams together with the results?
(This is a matter of course here)

No. Here's a typical recap from ACBLScore

http://web.mit.edu/m...19/19-06-25.rcp

Results that include board diagrams are produced from other software independent of ACBLScore. Most often these days it's the result file from the electronic scoring device management software. Or the results from ACBLScore can be merged with the hand records from BridgeComposer that were used for dealing.

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Posted 2019-June-28, 08:48

View Postbarmar, on 2019-June-28, 08:26, said:

No. Here's a typical recap from ACBLScore

http://web.mit.edu/m...19/19-06-25.rcp


Oh dear, who can bear digesting that kind of a report?
Here is a typical of our reports, this particular one is from a local social event:
Results (in Norwegian)
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Posted 2019-June-28, 09:19

View Postpran, on 2019-June-28, 08:48, said:

Oh dear, who can bear digesting that kind of a report?
Here is a typical of our reports, this particular one is from a local social event:
Results (in Norwegian)

And most clubs do produce better reports. They just don't come from ACBLScore, they come from the deal generation software.

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